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    HOA Suing Vet over Swing Set

    http://houston.cbslocal.com/2012/05/...ard-swing-set/

    No wonder a good number of folks are against big government.

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    HOA's aren't big government. They aren't even little government. They actually have nothing to do with the government.... imagine that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedPhoenix View Post
    HOA's aren't big government. They aren't even little government. They actually have nothing to do with the government.... imagine that.
    Well, they're certainly not "big government" with respect to anything federal, state, or even city or county. But seeing as how the definition of "government" includes "community" I'd say they're an example of "community government" - in this case community government run amok!

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    political direction and control exercised over the actions of the members, citizens, or inhabitants of communities, societies, and states; direction of the affairs of a state, community, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McKinneyTXHusker View Post
    Well, they're certainly not "big government" with respect to anything federal, state, or even city or county. But seeing as how the definition of "government" includes "community" I'd say they're an example of "community government" - in this case community government run amok!

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    How have they "run amok"? If they have bylaws and the home owners didn't follow the bylaws then that's on the home owner. It's the obligation of the homeowner to know the rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by COsker View Post
    http://houston.cbslocal.com/2012/05/...ard-swing-set/

    No wonder a good number of folks are against big government.
    really want to try that comparison?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huskers57 View Post
    really want to try that comparison?
    Try to look at it like a libertarian: Governing is governing. One size fits all when it infringes on freedoms.

    A swing set?, really?....

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    Quote Originally Posted by COsker View Post
    Try to look at it like a libertarian: Governing is governing. One size fits all when it infringes on freedoms.

    A swing set?, really?....

    a flag pole? really?

    a basketball hoop? really?

    this is just another episode of HOA gone amok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huskers57 View Post
    a flag pole? really?

    a basketball hoop? really?

    this is just another episode of HOA gone amok.
    Wow, I'm agreeing with 57!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huskers57 View Post
    a flag pole? really?

    a basketball hoop? really?

    this is just another episode of HOA gone amok.
    We agree.

    Something else the HOA has in common with big government, imo.

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    HOA Suing Vet over Swing Set

    And they seem to be harassing with this one. I would like to see the hoa's record that they made contact with this family to say the swing set was in the wrong.

    The big government remark comes from this being an example of how big government treats the people.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Huskermedic View Post
    And they seem to be harassing with this one. I would like to see the hoa's record that they made contact with this family to say the swing set was in the wrong.

    The big government remark comes from this being an example of how big government treats the people.
    This is not an example of government doing ANYTHING. These are private organizations treating people consistently. The burden of proof is on the homeowner. If they got proper approval it will be in writing. Because apparently according to the HOA Bylaws, that's what is required. Failure to do so is their fault. Not the HOA's fault.

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    HOA Suing Vet over Swing Set

    If you ask me big government is twice as bad.


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    Men of Israel, consider carefully what you intend to do to these men. Some time ago Theudas appeared, claiming to be somebody, and about four hundred men rallied to him. He was killed, all his followers were dispersed, and it all came to nothing. After him, Judas the Galilean appeared in the days of the census and led a band of people in revolt. He too was killed, and all his followers were scattered. Therefore, in the present case I advise you: Leave these men alone! Let them go! For if their purpose or activity is of human origin, it will fail. But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop these men; you will only find yourselves fighting against God.” - Gamalie the Pharisee - Addressing the Sanhedrin regarding the new group called Christians
    "I support collecting more in taxes from people with high incomes who choose to actually pay taxes at lower tax rates than use lawyers and accountants to avoid taxes at higher tax rates," he wrote. "Some tax revenues at low tax rates is a heckuva lot better than no tax revenues at high tax rates." - Art Laffer (on 999 plan)


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    HOAs

    - provide services
    - regulate activities
    - levy assessments and fines
    - conduct activities otherwise performed by local government

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    Quote Originally Posted by COsker View Post
    HOAs

    - provide services
    - regulate activities
    - levy assessments and fines
    - conduct activities otherwise performed by local government
    Corporations often do the same thing. Are they also part of the government? Look, no matter how you try to wiggle out of this....HOA's are in no way shape or form part of the government or even remotely representative of it.

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    I remember all the various brands, models, and versions of swingsets throughout our neighborhood as I was growing up. It boggles the mind to try to understand how a swingset like this (I've seen the pictures, its a high-end wooden set which apparently cost around $1200) can possibly be considered something that's bad just because portions of it are visible from adjacent properties, or the street. How utterly ridiculous!







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