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    34 wins?

    NU is on pace to win 34 games this season. I'm guessing that even if we aren't the conf champs, that should be good enough for an at-large NCAA bid, even with the wretched RPI we'll have at the season's end.

    Your thoughts?

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    I've been enjoying this season. First time I've had genuine enjoyment since the SF/Manhattan meltdown.

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    I agree. We need to upgrade the pitching staff, but DE is bringing a new excitement to Hawks Field. Husker baseball is fun again.

    A regional appearance this year would be gravy. I expect we'll be relevant again nationally in 2 or 3 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queso View Post
    I agree. We need to upgrade the pitching staff, but DE is bringing a new excitement to Hawks Field. Husker baseball is fun again.

    A regional appearance this year would be gravy. I expect we'll be relevant again nationally in 2 or 3 years.
    concur on all counts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queso View Post
    NU is on pace to win 34 games this season. I'm guessing that even if we aren't the conf champs, that should be good enough for an at-large NCAA bid, even with the wretched RPI we'll have at the season's end.

    Your thoughts?
    I am thinking the number will more likely need to be around 37 Ws......

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    I think the B1G is a one bid league unless someone besides Purdue wins the conference tourney.

    NU at 34 wins isn't close to a bid, and thats even taken 2 outta 3 from Purdue.

    Currently Nebraska is 1-3 vs Top 50 RPI teams, and 6-4 vs 200+ RPI teams. The resume just isn't there to get an at large.

    Things could change, as California plays numerous top 20 teams down the stretch which will help. NU could sweep the higher RPI teams ahead of them (Purdue #16, Ohio State #35, Michigan State #63), but as of right now, 34 or 37 wins isn't going to do it...

    To become relavent again NU needs STUD pitching. And I mean studs. Dudes who can dominate anyone on Friday night (Komine, Marsden, Chamberlein, Watson, etc). And #2's who can also dominate (Duensing, Kronecke, etc).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huskers57 View Post
    I've been enjoying this season. First time I've had genuine enjoyment since the SF/Manhattan meltdown.
    You had to bring up the San Francisco regional loss?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fromunda Cheese View Post
    I think the B1G is a one bid league unless someone besides Purdue wins the conference tourney.

    NU at 34 wins isn't close to a bid, and thats even taken 2 outta 3 from Purdue.

    Currently Nebraska is 1-3 vs Top 50 RPI teams, and 6-4 vs 200+ RPI teams. The resume just isn't there to get an at large.

    Things could change, as California plays numerous top 20 teams down the stretch which will help. NU could sweep the higher RPI teams ahead of them (Purdue #16, Ohio State #35, Michigan State #63), but as of right now, 34 or 37 wins isn't going to do it...

    To become relavent again NU needs STUD pitching. And I mean studs. Dudes who can dominate anyone on Friday night (Komine, Marsden, Chamberlein, Watson, etc). And #2's who can also dominate (Duensing, Kronecke, etc).
    This is ridiculous on so many levels. If this negativity is going to be your hallmark Fromunda, perhaps another team would more fully appreciate your "support". You want 2-3 "studs" equal to some of the best pitchers we've had on the SAME team? Sure thing. Hell, in addition to Shane, Joba, and Brian, let's put Alex Gordon, Ken Harvey, Will Bolt, and Jed Morris on the squad too. That MIGHT help us be relevant again.
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    We are currently 23-12. We have 21 games left, We are currently winning at a rate of about 2 out of 3. If that continues and we win 14 of the remaining games, we would finish 37-19. With our schedule, we may have a shot if we win 40 games, but unless we win the conference (and 14-7 down the stretch won't do it) we will need to win at least 40 (a 17-4 finish).
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    We are currently 23-12. We have 21 games left, We are currently winning at a rate of about 2 out of 3. If that continues and we win 14 of the remaining games, we would finish 37-19. With our schedule, we may have a shot if we win 40 games, but unless we win the conference (and 14-7 down the stretch won't do it) we will need to win at least 40 (a 17-4 finish).
    I estimated 34 at the adjusted win rate...our winning percentage has declined over the over the season. But you may be right. If I have time, I'll dig into the data from the last couple of years of what it will take to get selected.

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    This is ridiculous on so many levels. If this negativity is going to be your hallmark Fromunda, perhaps another team would more fully appreciate your "support". You want 2-3 "studs" equal to some of the best pitchers we've had on the SAME team? Sure thing. Hell, in addition to Shane, Joba, and Brian, let's put Alex Gordon, Ken Harvey, Will Bolt, and Jed Morris on the squad too. That MIGHT help us be relevant again.
    Cry me a river Mort.

    I'm talking reality in the Big 10 and if you don't want to hear it, maybe YOU should take your support to another team.

    NU is the 4th best RPI team in the Big 10, standing around #65. An at large, as of now, isn't on the radar. 1 win, count it, ONE over a Top 50 RPI team. Yet this is an at large team?

    If you want perspective, look at the Big 12 standings. They are a 3 bid league (Baylor, A&M, and Texas), yet the Big 10 is a two or three bid league?

    As for national relavance, you tell me how Nebraska will become nationally relavant without STUD pitching. That will be a short conversation.

    Every pitcher I listed was off a team that was nationally relavant. Note I didn't list pitchers off teams that weren't nationally relavant. Coincidence? I think not.

    Again, if Nebraska needs to become nationally relavant, they need STUD pitching, at least one, if not two. This is ridiculous on many levels?

    You yourself talked about the Fresno State model. How is NU going to beat these high rated teams without stud pitching? Magic? Luck? Maybe the other teams won't show up and Nebraska will win by forfeit.

    So, now I'm waiting for you to point out which of my statements isn't factual and is ridiculous.

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    You want 2-3 "studs" equal to some of the best pitchers we've had on the SAME team? Sure thing. Hell, in addition to Shane, Joba, and Brian, let's put Alex Gordon, Ken Harvey, Will Bolt, and Jed Morris on the squad too. That MIGHT help us be relevant again.
    Allow me to continue, maybe you misinterpreted what I was saying.

    Nebraska needs ONE STUD equivalent to a Friday night guy we've had in the past = Komine, Marsden, Chamberlein, Watson, etc

    Nebraska needs then needs ONE STUD equivalent to a great # 2 we've had in the past = Kroeneke, Duensing, etc

    I didn't imply all of them on one staff.

    NU is 1-3 vs Top 50 RPI teams.

    NU is 6-4 vs 200+ RPI teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queso View Post
    I estimated 34 at the adjusted win rate...our winning percentage has declined over the over the season. But you may be right. If I have time, I'll dig into the data from the last couple of years of what it will take to get selected.
    True, and our .556 win percentage in the B1G won't even get us to 34 wins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fromunda Cheese View Post
    Cry me a river Mort.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fromunda Cheese View Post
    Allow me to continue, maybe you misinterpreted what I was saying.
    Nebraska needs ONE STUD equivalent to a Friday night guy we've had in the past = Komine, Marsden, Chamberlein, Watson, etc
    Nebraska needs then needs ONE STUD equivalent to a great # 2 we've had in the past = Kroeneke, Duensing, etc
    I didn't imply all of them on one staff.
    NU is 1-3 vs Top 50 RPI teams.
    NU is 6-4 vs 200+ RPI teams.
    Negativity or Reality?
    You are the one crying for two threads in a row about the hopelessness that surrounds the baseball program.

    Nebraska has never recruited STUD pitchers. They have MADE them. Silva is the best pitching coach we've had since Anderson, so how's about we give him a chance before raising our white flag?

    With the new scheduling philosophy, we can run our Friday night guy out for the midweek showdown and have 3-4 "above average" arms that will keep us in the conference series. Although it's great to have, it doesn't take "STUD" pitching to win in the B1G.
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    1 Purdue 7 - 2 - 0 0.778 - 24 - 5 - 0 0.828 16 0.6037 6 - 2 - 0 8 - 2 - 0 5 Wins
    2 Nebraska 5 - 4 - 0 0.556 2 22 - 12 - 0 0.647 67 0.5407 1 - 3 - 0 7 - 3 - 0 3 Wins
    2 Ohio State 5 - 4 - 0 0.556 2 20 - 12 - 0 0.625 33 0.5734 2 - 5 - 0 8 - 2 - 0 6 Wins
    2 Indiana 5 - 4 - 0 0.556 2 15 - 18 - 0 0.455 144 0.5033 1 - 2 - 0 6 - 4 - 0 1 Win
    5 Michigan State 3 - 3 - 0 0.500 20 - 11 - 0 0.645 62 0.5474 3 - 5 - 0 6 - 4 - 0 1 Loss
    5 Illinois 3 - 3 - 0 0.500 18 - 13 - 0 0.581 78 0.5350 1 - 4 - 0 7 - 3 - 0 1 Loss
    5 Minnesota 3 - 3 - 0 0.500 15 - 17 - 0 0.469 126 0.5120 4 - 5 - 0 6 - 4 - 0 4 Losses
    8 Iowa 4 - 5 - 0 0.444 3 13 - 16 - 0 0.448 207 0.4683 0 - 2 - 0 5 - 5 - 0 1 Win
    9 Michigan 2 - 4 - 0 0.333 15 - 19 - 0 0.441 209 0.4679 0 - 3 - 0 3 - 7 - 0 3 Losses
    9 Penn State 2 - 4 - 0 0.333 13 - 19 - 0 0.406 164 0.4927 1 - 7 - 0 7 - 3 - 0 1 Loss
    11 Northwestern 3 - 6 - 0 0.333 4 10 - 18 - 0 0.357 235 0.4485 0 - 3 - 0 4 - 6 - 0 4 Losses

    Looking bleak, although playing the top 2 RPI teams in the league on back to back weekends is just what we need to find out what WILL happen.

    IMO, i think a sweep of 1 of the series and 2 outa 3 in the other series will be our only shot at a regional, but hey!....that's why they play the game!!
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    Big Ten
    Records include games against Division I opponents only.
    Conference Overall RPI
    # Team W - L - T Pct GB W - L - T Pct Rank Pct vs 1-50 Last 10 Streak
    1 Purdue 7 - 2 - 0 0.778 - 24 - 5 - 0 0.828 16 0.6037 6 - 2 - 0 8 - 2 - 0 5 Wins
    2 Nebraska 5 - 4 - 0 0.556 2 22 - 12 - 0 0.647 67 0.5407 1 - 3 - 0 7 - 3 - 0 3 Wins
    2 Ohio State 5 - 4 - 0 0.556 2 20 - 12 - 0 0.625 33 0.5734 2 - 5 - 0 8 - 2 - 0 6 Wins
    2 Indiana 5 - 4 - 0 0.556 2 15 - 18 - 0 0.455 144 0.5033 1 - 2 - 0 6 - 4 - 0 1 Win
    5 Michigan State 3 - 3 - 0 0.500 20 - 11 - 0 0.645 62 0.5474 3 - 5 - 0 6 - 4 - 0 1 Loss
    5 Illinois 3 - 3 - 0 0.500 18 - 13 - 0 0.581 78 0.5350 1 - 4 - 0 7 - 3 - 0 1 Loss
    5 Minnesota 3 - 3 - 0 0.500 15 - 17 - 0 0.469 126 0.5120 4 - 5 - 0 6 - 4 - 0 4 Losses
    8 Iowa 4 - 5 - 0 0.444 3 13 - 16 - 0 0.448 207 0.4683 0 - 2 - 0 5 - 5 - 0 1 Win
    9 Michigan 2 - 4 - 0 0.333 15 - 19 - 0 0.441 209 0.4679 0 - 3 - 0 3 - 7 - 0 3 Losses
    9 Penn State 2 - 4 - 0 0.333 13 - 19 - 0 0.406 164 0.4927 1 - 7 - 0 7 - 3 - 0 1 Loss
    11 Northwestern 3 - 6 - 0 0.333 4 10 - 18 - 0 0.357 235 0.4485 0 - 3 - 0 4 - 6 - 0 4 Losses

    Sorry. didn't get what all the numbers meant in my original post....so here ya go!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Queso View Post
    I estimated 34 at the adjusted win rate...our winning percentage has declined over the over the season. But you may be right. If I have time, I'll dig into the data from the last couple of years of what it will take to get selected.
    7-3 over the last 10 gms. isn't bad, although the competition hasn't been the greatest
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huskers57 View Post
    I've been enjoying this season. First time I've had genuine enjoyment since the SF/Manhattan meltdown.
    Geesh, did you have to bring up that debacle?? Completely forgot all about that. That was sick!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Queso View Post
    I agree. We need to upgrade the pitching staff, but DE is bringing a new excitement to Hawks Field. Husker baseball is fun again.

    A regional appearance this year would be gravy. I expect we'll be relevant again nationally in 2 or 3 years.
    If we don't make it this season, (because of our pitching, if there is a reason), we will be there next season, I'm sure. Darin has instilled a desire to make things happen.
    GO BIG RED!

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    ...or they could just win the tourney and set aside all of the RPI BS Van Horn style.
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