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Are you implying we didn't? Do you know whose interest we guaged? Do you think we could have gotten Groce instead of Illinois?
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 Originally Posted by huskernut
Are you implying we didn't? Do you know whose interest we guaged? Do you think we could have gotten Groce instead of Illinois?
As we find with pretty well every situation presented on this board, many posters are inclinded to believe what they believe based on that's what they want to believe.
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I remember when Groce name was first bandied about it was criticized. It's amazing how a little tourney run will turn the tide.
We probably got Miles at the right time. His CSU team looks to be built to potentially make the same type of run, or better, next year.
If that happened, then Miles name would probably be too hot for Nebraska.
"Lay it down, forget it, take off your red, choose another team ... or stick with it."
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No my point was that they apparently tried and failed to get a "name"
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Originally Posted by OPHusker
No my point was that they apparently tried and failed to get a "name"
Specifically, "they" being NU, who tried and failed to get a name like Groce? So you were saying that at least NU aimed high? IF I undestand you correctly, then I agree that's likely.
Some would argue, I'm sure, that they didn't stick to it and settled too easily, or should have pursued more out of the box ideas. That may be true, I don't know. It's a judgment call, for sure. I don't think it's really even possible to know, unless we are privy to much more info than it sounds like anyone on here knows.
My personal guess is that T.O. may have not gotten a lot of interest from bigger names, unless maybe he would offer scale-breaking salaries or guarantees. He may have rightly realized that bringing in someone like that may not be good for NU and the guy he brought in may not care about building and staying. Faced with that he may have decided to go with a more "homespun" option. The kind of guy who with some success might like to make a home here. That approach can make a lot of sense, IMO, especially if you aren't getting much traction with the names anyway.
Ideas like approaching top program assistants sound like a better idea to me than a mercenary, but just like the mercenary approach, those people would probably see this as a stepping stone.
TO may or may not have done a good job with this. But the guy he found certainly has some attractive qualities. And I'm more than happy to get on his bandwagon and cheer him on and hope he can get the job done.
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wasn't NU too tall of an order for Dana to come home? then again, DA really isn't aiming high enough either.
Phil Jackson?
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Originally Posted by huskernut
Specifically, "they" being NU, who tried and failed to get a name like Groce? So you were saying that at least NU aimed high? IF I undestand you correctly, then I agree that's likely.
Some would argue, I'm sure, that they didn't stick to it and settled too easily, or should have pursued more out of the box ideas. That may be true, I don't know. It's a judgment call, for sure. I don't think it's really even possible to know, unless we are privy to much more info than it sounds like anyone on here knows.
My personal guess is that T.O. may have not gotten a lot of interest from bigger names, unless maybe he would offer scale-breaking salaries or guarantees. He may have rightly realized that bringing in someone like that may not be good for NU and the guy he brought in may not care about building and staying. Faced with that he may have decided to go with a more "homespun" option. The kind of guy who with some success might like to make a home here. That approach can make a lot of sense, IMO, especially if you aren't getting much traction with the names anyway.
Ideas like approaching top program assistants sound like a better idea to me than a mercenary, but just like the mercenary approach, those people would probably see this as a stepping stone.
TO may or may not have done a good job with this. But the guy he found certainly has some attractive qualities. And I'm more than happy to get on his bandwagon and cheer him on and hope he can get the job done.
I think he is referring to Illinois. And the fact Groce was their sixth (7th?) choice.
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Is anyone going to argue that the NU job is better than the Illinois job at this point?
"Just because somebody's a talented guy or he's right for a lot of people doesn't mean he's right for us here at Nebraska." -Bo Pelini, 2/3/10
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Originally Posted by FeelLikeAStranger
Is anyone going to argue that the NU job is better than the Illinois job at this point?
Not me. The roster that Doc left is a train wreck. It takes a special kind of coach to come in and engage in this kind of reclamation project.
"If you aren't fired with enthusiasm, you will be fired with enthusiasm." Vince Lombardi
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Illinois' coaching search has been a complete disaster. They have been publicly turned down by at least 6 people. Although I was disappointed when the Wichita St. coach publicly turned us down, I'm enjoying the Schadenfreude of seeing Illinois' search go far worse than ours. As for Groce v. Miles, I don't think a strong case can be made that one is demonstrably better than the other. Time will tell.
"The distinctive mark of the Christian, today more than ever, must be love for the poor, the weak, the suffering." Pope John Paul II
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Illinois is stupid and so is everyone that lives there 
Originally Posted by CornfieldCounty
You get so wrapped up in the proverbial "its all about me and my" that you loose not only your creditability but any resemblance of intelligence.
Originally Posted by Sonuvahusker
I'm reaching the point of becoming a lunatic here
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Alternatively, we could interpret all of the names coming out of the Illinois job search to indicate a leaky ship in Illinois, rather than a failed search on Nebraska's part. It sounds like there are major boosters and trustees that are trying to get their way by withholding support for the AD. By the way, based on Chicago talk radio, Illinois fans will be irate with a Groce hire.
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Originally Posted by windycityred
It sounds like there are major boosters and trustees that are trying to get their way by withholding support for the AD.
I realize the the linked article says that this is not the case according to a source on the board, but it was a topic of conversation on the radio as I was driving home from work yesterday....
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Originally Posted by RedPhoenix
I think he is referring to Illinois. And the fact Groce was their sixth (7th?) choice.
Correct since it was indeed an article about the Illinois search and their lengthy list of "name" coaches
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Originally Posted by huskernut
Specifically, "they" being NU, who tried and failed to get a name like Groce? So you were saying that at least NU aimed high? IF I undestand you correctly, then I agree that's likely.
Some would argue, I'm sure, that they didn't stick to it and settled too easily, or should have pursued more out of the box ideas. That may be true, I don't know. It's a judgment call, for sure. I don't think it's really even possible to know, unless we are privy to much more info than it sounds like anyone on here knows.
My personal guess is that T.O. may have not gotten a lot of interest from bigger names, unless maybe he would offer scale-breaking salaries or guarantees. He may have rightly realized that bringing in someone like that may not be good for NU and the guy he brought in may not care about building and staying. Faced with that he may have decided to go with a more "homespun" option. The kind of guy who with some success might like to make a home here. That approach can make a lot of sense, IMO, especially if you aren't getting much traction with the names anyway.
Ideas like approaching top program assistants sound like a better idea to me than a mercenary, but just like the mercenary approach, those people would probably see this as a stepping stone.
TO may or may not have done a good job with this. But the guy he found certainly has some attractive qualities. And I'm more than happy to get on his bandwagon and cheer him on and hope he can get the job done.
Very nice post, I agree with much of what you said. Like the Erstad hire, I like the fact that if Miles can turn this around he may not be so quick to bolt. This is speculation on my part of course, but I get the feeling that if he builds a winner at a B1G program he will be content to stay at the program. I also agree about getting on his bandwagon, until he proves he is not up to snuff I am going to procede with cautious optimism.
 
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. -Carl Sagan
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Originally Posted by GoBigfRed
I remember when Groce name was first bandied about it was criticized. It's amazing how a little tourney run will turn the tide.
I don't remember seeing a lot of criticism of Groce, but you're right, a tourney run never hurts.
Originally Posted by GoBigfRed
We probably got Miles at the right time. His CSU team looks to be built to potentially make the same type of run, or better, next year.
If that happened, then Miles name would probably be too hot for Nebraska.
IF, and that's complete speculation at this point, but IF CSU made a big tourney run next year then I agree that he would overlook NU, especially if another B1G program was looking at him.
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. -Carl Sagan
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Originally Posted by ChitownHusker
Illinois' coaching search has been a complete disaster. They have been publicly turned down by at least 6 people. Although I was disappointed when the Wichita St. coach publicly turned us down, I'm enjoying the Schadenfreude of seeing Illinois' search go far worse than ours. As for Groce v. Miles, I don't think a strong case can be made that one is demonstrably better than the other. Time will tell.
...except that Groce significant coaching experience with a B1G team, for whom he recruited some the best players that ever suited up for the Buckeyes.
Aside from that, you're right, all else is equal. 
"If you aren't fired with enthusiasm, you will be fired with enthusiasm." Vince Lombardi
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