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Thread: How We All Got Stuck Paying the Medical Bills of the Woman Who Sued to Kill Obamacare

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    The one that was not paid for....


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    Probably because it made too much sense. Pretty sure they were busy assembling the sweetheart deal for the pharma industry.
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    $30 million a year in bankruptcies for one hospital? wow!

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    No unpaid health care bills not bankruptcies...

    It is not truly accurate, of course, that that $30 million a year in uncompensated care at Bay Medical Center is, indeed, uncompensated. Somebody has to pay for it. And guess who that is? It is all of us.
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    $30 million a year in bankruptcies for one hospital? wow!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Reign View Post
    No unpaid health care bills not bankruptcies...
    Oh.. what else could it be?

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    I don't know you tell me....I suspect you'll find quite a few folks who just chose not to by health insurance or could not afford it....


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    Oh.. what else could it be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Reign View Post
    I don't know you tell me....I suspect you'll find quite a few folks who just chose not to by health insurance or could not afford it....

    I was hoping you would not stop and actually find the answer for yourself.. Bankruptcies and no health care are but a small piece of the pie, let alone what Obamacare would actually cover. But I am sure you all knew that before you like to bang on the "Hypocritical Righties Drum".

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    You asked the question....so yeah it would make sense to do your own research before asking...sort of like reading the article before commenting....

    I'm not banging on any drum nor did I bring any ideological view into it....you did that....not me...I was simply trying to have a nice conversation/debate on this subject...

    Okay tell us what the Affordable Health Care Act covers...as pertains to this....







    Quote Originally Posted by CornfieldCounty View Post
    I was hoping you would not stop and actually find the answer for yourself.. Bankruptcies and no health care are but a small piece of the pie, let alone what Obamacare would actually cover. But I am sure you all knew that before you like to bang on the "Hypocritical Righties Drum".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Reign View Post
    You asked the question....so yeah it would make sense to do your own research before asking...sort of like reading the article before commenting....
    I did, and I know the answers, just making sure no one jumped to any hypociritical points

    I'm not banging on any drum nor did I bring any ideological view into it....you did that....not me...I was simply trying to have a nice conversation/debate on this subject...
    and don't expect this to be the last time you hear a story like this either....

    God Bless her.....
    Subtle inferences aside, right?

    Okay tell us what the Affordable Health Care Act covers...as pertains to this....
    Something about all of those uninsured/underinsured, but I guess you missed that part of the article

    The most recent National Health Interview Survey by the Centers for Disease Control makes that abundantly clear. According to the CDC's survey, released last week, one in three Americans say their medical bills are a "financial burden." And it is not just the uninsured. More than a fourth of those with private insurance said they were struggling with medical debt. That's because insurers and employers are moving more and more of us into limited benefit or high-deductible plans. Why? Because of the absurd cost-shifting that is the hallmark of the U.S. health care system.

    If just one relatively small hospital in Panama City, Florida, has $30 million in "uncompensated" care every year, think of what the total amount is for all hospitals and doctors in this country.

    Now do you see why we have to get everybody covered? Mary Brown might have avoided paying those medical bills by filing for bankruptcy, but that doesn't mean the rest of us are off the hook.

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    BELOW...

    Quote Originally Posted by CornfieldCounty View Post
    I did, and I know the answers, just making sure no one jumped to any hypociritical points

    Could have fooled me by the question you asked in post #4..... A few people then pointed out to you what you would have already known had you taken the time to read the article....

    Like I said I have no drum to bang in this fight....I have military health care (which is awesome by the way)...and FWIW my dad is a conservative and my best and dearest friend/best man is a conservative as is my older sister etc. etc.....I have no problem with that.....makes for interesting discussions and a chance to learn from each other....which is a lost art today....instead of throwing around snarky ideolgical comments....

    Like I said you made it an ideolgical thing not me....I'm actually interested in a nice conversation/debate....which is a great way to learn from each other....

    Anyway back to the point of the thread....





    Subtle inferences aside, right?



    Something about all of those uninsured/underinsured, but I guess you missed that part of the article

    And no I didn't miss that...and agree with it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Reign View Post
    And no I didn't miss that...and agree with it....
    Then why did you ask?

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    The hospital gets stuck with her unpaid bills. Thus, bankrutpcies like this drive up the cost of health care for all of us.

    It's a big problem the new health care plan tries to address.

    And before you complain about the new health care plan, explain what Republicans did for 8 years to address the ever-growing health care problem in this country? Never mind -- we know. Nothing. Except pass an unfunded mandate (another example of Pub hypocrisy).
    On a very high level, the new health care law will not address this situation. We all will be stuck for paying everyone's medical bills regardless of the mandate. If she cannot afford a health plan, she will pay a fine, per Obama's individual mandate, and then receive the healthcare anyway.

    And, your first statement is one reason health care costs so much anyway. Illegal aliens, for example, have cause hospitals in TX to shut down because the hospitals can no longer afford to provide care. Those doctors expect to get paid, and if there is no money coming in from those that are treated, there is no money to pay those caregivers.

    Money in, money out. I know it is a foreign concept to libs and we really can't expect any of them to understand that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Showman View Post
    Actually I believe a little something nicknamed "RomneyCare" was created and endorsed by the Heritage Foundation. Any similarities to "Obamacare" are purely coincidental and should have no bearing on the smear campaign against the vile and evil healthcare bill passed by the Democrats. Yup, no similarities whatsoever.
    Heritage reviewed and rolled back their support of social health care laws. http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanuel...or-romneycare/
    In short: “since [the passage and implementation of Obamacare], a growing body of research has provided a strong basis to conclude that any government insurance mandate is not only unnecessary, but is a bad policy option.”


    Complete brief
    http://blog.heritage.org/wp-content/...f-05-11-11.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Red Rick View Post
    On a very high level, the new health care law will not address this situation. We all will be stuck for paying everyone's medical bills regardless of the mandate. If she cannot afford a health plan, she will pay a fine, per Obama's individual mandate, and then receive the healthcare anyway.

    And, your first statement is one reason health care costs so much anyway. Illegal aliens, for example, have cause hospitals in TX to shut down because the hospitals can no longer afford to provide care. Those doctors expect to get paid, and if there is no money coming in from those that are treated, there is no money to pay those caregivers.

    Money in, money out. I know it is a foreign concept to libs and we really can't expect any of them to understand that.
    Reagan ruined this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedPhoenix View Post
    Reagan ruined this country.
    Well, I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Red Rick View Post
    Well, I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.







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