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Americans need to quit whining!!!
http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/28/opinio...html?hpt=us_c2
Fuel is a drug the U.S. has long since needed weaning off. Admittedly Americans have to cover greater distances than Europeans. But you don't need a glorified double bed powered by a throbbing great V8 to do that. A sensibly-sized car with a two-liter turbo will do the job just as comfortably.And with developing nations such as China, Brazil and India demanding ever more fuel, the planet can't put up with anyone's penchant for gas-guzzling monsters any more.But if the European experience is anything to go by, the $4 gallon isn't going to alter driving habits dramatically. America needs petrol prices to double if people are to permanently park up their 15mpg pick-up trucks. Maybe then it'll elicit a bit of sympathy from over here.
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thill won't be pleased. see his ferris bueller comments.
 Originally Posted by CombatTargeteer
I trust 57
Originally Posted by HuskerWeatherman
He is the messiah.
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Americans need to quit whining!!!
Comparing fuel prices between the two can't be done. The difference in regulations and mpg per car is dramatically different between the country's.
Born a Nebraskan, raised a Nebraskan, will die a Nebraskan!! Go Big Red!
Men of Israel, consider carefully what you intend to do to these men. Some time ago Theudas appeared, claiming to be somebody, and about four hundred men rallied to him. He was killed, all his followers were dispersed, and it all came to nothing. After him, Judas the Galilean appeared in the days of the census and led a band of people in revolt. He too was killed, and all his followers were scattered. Therefore, in the present case I advise you: Leave these men alone! Let them go! For if their purpose or activity is of human origin, it will fail. But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop these men; you will only find yourselves fighting against God.” - Gamalie the Pharisee - Addressing the Sanhedrin regarding the new group called Christians
"I support collecting more in taxes from people with high incomes who choose to actually pay taxes at lower tax rates than use lawyers and accountants to avoid taxes at higher tax rates," he wrote. "Some tax revenues at low tax rates is a heckuva lot better than no tax revenues at high tax rates." - Art Laffer (on 999 plan)
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yeah Europe got better vehicles.
Originally Posted by CombatTargeteer
I trust 57
Originally Posted by HuskerWeatherman
He is the messiah.
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Originally Posted by Huskers57
yeah Europe got better vehicles.
No kidding I was in Ireland and the car we rented a VW diesel got close to 65 MPH ..yes converted
 
For every minute you remain angry, you give up sixty seconds of peace of mind.
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like many things in this country...reactive rather than proactive
For every minute you remain angry, you give up sixty seconds of peace of mind.
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Originally Posted by Pops
like many things in this country...reactive rather than proactive
agreed!
Originally Posted by CombatTargeteer
I trust 57
Originally Posted by HuskerWeatherman
He is the messiah.
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Red Shirt
People keep bringing up Europe..we don't live in Europe and I love my avalanche...and aren't you, RP, whining about other Americans whining? So stop whining RP!
I am nothing without the grace of God
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Originally Posted by huskheartguy
People keep bringing up Europe..we don't live in Europe and I love my avalanche...and aren't you, RP, whining about other Americans whining? So stop whining RP!
Where did I whine about anything in this thread?
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Red Shirt
Originally Posted by RedPhoenix
Where did I whine about anything in this thread?
In the title.
I am nothing without the grace of God
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Originally Posted by huskheartguy
In the title.
Nope. Try again.
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Red Shirt
Originally Posted by RedPhoenix
Nope. Try again.
Yup. Try again.
I am nothing without the grace of God
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Feb 28th 2012 the day RP discovered CNN.COM...bravo, bravo.
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The big difference... the US is far behind the rest of the developed world in mass transit. Europeans, in general, don't have to rely on automobiles to get them where they want/need to go as do Americans -- and thus, a much larger percentage in Europe don't own their own vehicles and/or use much less fuel.
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Originally Posted by HuskerWeatherman
The big difference... the US is far behind the rest of the developed world in mass transit. Europeans, in general, don't have to rely on automobiles to get them where they want/need to go as do Americans -- and thus, a much larger percentage in Europe don't own their own vehicles and/or use much less fuel.
Great points.
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Red Shirt
Originally Posted by RedPhoenix
Great points.
Agreed...man that hurts to say that RP 
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Pavlovian Manipulator
Originally Posted by HuskerWeatherman
The big difference... the US is far behind the rest of the developed world in mass transit. Europeans, in general, don't have to rely on automobiles to get them where they want/need to go as do Americans -- and thus, a much larger percentage in Europe don't own their own vehicles and/or use much less fuel.
I wouldn't say the US is behind in mass transit. I contend we as a people, especially those of us in fly-over country, can't be relegated into riding in a collective box. Around these parts, that is saved for pigs and cows. Hell, for all practical purposes, those could be considered dining cars, if you don't mind rare meat. Not to mention, we like our autonomous-mobiles.
"Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan
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Recruit
If you have a 2 liter turbo that can pull my 4000 pound camper I am all for it. I know I don't need a camper but I have always camped and that is how we spend our vacations. My boys love it. No tv, no cell phone, the way life was meant to be.
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Originally Posted by huskerpt34
If you have a 2 liter turbo that can pull my 4000 pound camper I am all for it. I know I don't need a camper but I have always camped and that is how we spend our vacations. My boys love it. No tv, no cell phone, the way life was meant to be.
Would be much less expensive and much more practical for you to rent a truck when you wanted to tow your camper.
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Red Shirt
Originally Posted by RedPhoenix
Would be much less expensive and much more practical for you to rent a truck when you wanted to tow your camper.
The question I have is, why can't a truck, let's use my 2009 Chevy avalanche as an example, run off a V-6 turbo charged engine? I'd get just as much horse power and way more mpg.
My brother in law have this discussion all the time...how can we improve so much medically, scientifically, etc since 1970 but engines aren't much better since then?
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