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    Quote Originally Posted by RedPhoenix View Post
    Yes.

    But I would first ask you what the definition of blame is that you are using. Must an actual employee of the news organization specifically blame Obama? Can it be someone who is a guest on a show on that network? Do op-ed pieces count? Etc.
    You have to love that sonuv, don't you?

    To give you a straight answer, for me, if the topic/segment was gas prices adn who's to blame and a guest or host blamed obama without allowing a counter point it might be fair to say Fox blamed obama.
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    Thank God for Obama saving and transforming our economy albeit slower than any (including him) would like.

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    Filled up for $3.34 in mid-Missouri today. Glad I got 41+ mpg on my previous tank of gas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Porkchopexpress View Post
    Filled up for $3.34 in mid-Missouri today. Glad I got 41+ mpg on my previous tank of gas.
    What you ridin a moped?
    Quote Originally Posted by Warhorse View Post
    Thank God for Obama saving and transforming our economy albeit slower than any (including him) would like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huskrthill View Post
    I doubt that he wants that (not speaking for Cornfield), but those things are already regulated.

    I think the overall point of the thread was that BRR would like to see the media be consistent in their treatment of presidents. President Obama has taken far less of a beating than his predecessor when it comes to high gas prices.
    And why do you think that is?

    A. Gas is still just $3.52, not the high $4's we say before
    B. Bush was tight with Big Oil and people thought his administration was doing them favors.
    C. Iran is thinking of closing the Straight so there is speculation of supply problems.
    D. High gas prices is not something that is seen as political payoff from the Obama WH.
    E. All of the above

    Quote Originally Posted by CornfieldCounty View Post
    Just to be clear, crystal, the president does have control over those areas in one form or another today.
    And you think this is a good thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Red Rick View Post
    First off, don't improperly chop my posts. Make sure the part you are quoting makes sense, or don't bother.

    Second, the leftists were all about blaming Bush for high gas prices, claiming it was payola to his big oil buddies. What I want to hear now from leftists is that it is free markets setting the price and admit they were doing nothing but attempting to demonize Bush for political reasons. But libs can never be honest. That is not in their nature. It is their nature to deceive. And I can think of another word that starts with "demo" who's practice is first to deceive.
    First of all, how WOULD you like me to chop your posts?
    First off,chop my part -- makes sense, bother.
    Second, you figured it all out.

    It is Obama's fault. He is making gas prices go up to benefit all his buddies in Big Oil. Let's be honest, Obama's cash base is basically the oil rich state of Texas and he is doing this just for political reasons.

    Makes plenty of sense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuZkurZ View Post
    What you ridin a moped?
    Ha, sort of. Honda Civic. I have a 30 mile drive on a rural highway to and from work. There's few hills, turns, and traffic. So I drive 55-60mph the entire way.

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    thill and Rick got real quiet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huskerwirejay View Post
    thill and Rick got real quiet.
    Yeah, you sure got them!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huskerwirejay View Post
    And why do you think that is?

    A. Gas is still just $3.52, not the high $4's we say before
    B. Bush was tight with Big Oil and people thought his administration was doing them favors.
    C. Iran is thinking of closing the Straight so there is speculation of supply problems.
    D. High gas prices is not something that is seen as political payoff from the Obama WH.
    E. All of the above

    And you think this is a good thing?

    First of all, how WOULD you like me to chop your posts?

    Second, you figured it all out.

    It is Obama's fault. He is making gas prices go up to benefit all his buddies in Big Oil. Let's be honest, Obama's cash base is basically the oil rich state of Texas and he is doing this just for political reasons.

    Makes plenty of sense to me.
    A) Gas prices today are the highest for any February on record. Apples to apples, please.
    B) No one thought that except the media and hysterically hyperventilating liberals who wanted it to be true, and they tried to convince everyone of that. This is sort of the point of this and following day's threads.
    C) What??? You mean the Middle East wasn't in the mix when Bush was in office?
    D) But high energy prices are the ultimate goal for this administration. The problem with liberals is that if they were intellectually honest with the public, there isn't one of their ideas that would get them ANY political payoff. Not with the internets these days.

    I can't speak for thill, but I have a life off of this board too and respond when I can. Don't take silence as evidence of defeat. Only of things larger in my life than responding to ignorant posts.

    Sidenote to point B - Look at the payola the "green" companies got from Obama and how they are filing for bankruptcy at the rate of one every three weeks or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weinosker View Post
    Does anyone in this thread understand how the gas prices get set?
    You see the futures commodity prices on NYMEX (New York Mercantile Exchange). The prices are bid on the WTI (West Texas Intermediate) prices based on oil storage in Cushing Oklahoma.

    In the US there is a contract between the oil producer and oil purchaser that sets the price paid by the purchaser or received by the oil producer to the price NYMEX price. So the price is set by the bids and asks on the commodity market daily. The European price is set based on the Brent crude prices rather than the WTI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedPhoenix View Post
    Fox is very agenda driven. So again, we can expect you not to post daily about this right?

    O'Reilly is adamant about blaming the oil companies. He shows his ignorance of the oil industry each time he talks about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedPhoenix View Post
    1. The economy was crashing
    2. We have become accustomed to higher gas prices/it's not a great shock that gas is going up it's done it EVERY year now for a while at this same exact time of the year
    3. It was at the end of Bush's term
    4. It was an election year
    5. If it climbs up above the $4 range and flirts with the $5 range you're going to see Obama get called out

    I know this doesn't match with your "ITS A MEDIA CONSPIRACY I TELL YA!" type of theory, but there are plenty of practical reasons why.
    Actually prices are rising earlier this year. It is a little odd that prices are rising at this time of year in light of the low demand.

    The fact that the Democrats and their policies have impeded drilling and building of refineries in the US the past 20 years is the primary reason oil and gas prices are high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huskerwirejay View Post
    thill and Rick got real quiet.
    Let me see if I get your logic. Prices are set based on supply and demand. Obama and his cronies (the Greenies) are opposed to additional oil production and impede it every chance they get. There efforts reduce the supply of oil. Therefor they should not be blamed for lower supply and higher prices.

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    Heard on the radio yesterday, the US is exporting fuels due to the large reserves we have built up over the last few years.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tango View Post
    Actually prices are rising earlier this year. It is a little odd that prices are rising at this time of year in light of the low demand.

    The fact that the Democrats and their policies have impeded drilling and building of refineries in the US the past 20 years is the primary reason oil and gas prices are high.
    Link for the second part?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pookey View Post
    Heard on the radio yesterday, the US is exporting fuels due to the large reserves we have built up over the last few years.
    Are you wanting the government to step in and stop oil companies from selling their oil?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedPhoenix View Post
    Link for the second part?
    Are your Googles broke?

    This isn't something new. It's well known that a new refinery hasn't come online in the US since 1976. There are plenty of stories out there - from a variety of news agencies - in which petroleum experts bemoan the lack of refining capability. There are a few different factors, but the two that generally come up are the cost of building a new refinery and government regulations that make it difficult to build a new refinery. If you had to make a guess, which party would you say had the biggest hand in drafting legislation to limit this activity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huskerwirejay View Post
    thill and Rick got real quiet.
    Ha ha! I guess you won then! Congratulations!

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    Quote Originally Posted by huskrthill View Post
    Are your Googles broke?

    This isn't something new. It's well known that a new refinery hasn't come online in the US since 1976. There are plenty of stories out there - from a variety of news agencies - in which petroleum experts bemoan the lack of refining capability. There are a few different factors, but the two that generally come up are the cost of building a new refinery and government regulations that make it difficult to build a new refinery. If you had to make a guess, which party would you say had the biggest hand in drafting legislation to limit this activity?
    Why don't you enlighten us with a link so we don't have to guess?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warhorse View Post
    Why don't you enlighten us with a link so we don't have to guess?
    Seriously? I'll help you out and give you one from CNN in 2007:
    http://money.cnn.com/2007/04/17/news...my/refineries/
    Secondly, stringent environmental laws and effective community organizing have made it very difficult to build a new refinery in the U.S.

    "Everyone is quick to say "look at these refiners, they're driving up the price,'" said Phil Flynn Flynn, senior market analyst at Alaron Trading in Chicago. "But if I wanted to build a refinery tomorrow, I couldn't do it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by huskrthill View Post
    Seriously? I'll help you out and give you one from CNN in 2007:
    http://money.cnn.com/2007/04/17/news...my/refineries/
    Seriously? Where does this link support your contention that the dificulty of starting a new refinery is due solely to the Democratic Party?? I save you the time of having to concoct some duck and dodge answer...it doesn't.
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