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$4 Billion, with a B
And only a fraction of the amount moved. The industry ain't going away. Time to rethink strategy.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/10/wo...phetamine.html
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 Originally Posted by cm husker
I blame this guy.
Lord loves a workin' man; don't trust whitey; see a doctor and get rid of it.

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 Originally Posted by Red Dead Redemption
I blame this guy.

ftw.
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That's Facebook's annual revenues. How do I get in on a meth IPO?
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Would legalizing weed solve the merge problem?
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 Originally Posted by huskrthill
Would legalizing weed solve the merge problem?
It's still quite possible that meth producers would merge with facebook, unfortunately.
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The war on drugs is a failure.
We incarcerate a higher percentage of our population than any other country.
Our prisons are mostly filled with the poor and blacks. It's inherently racist and discriminates against a lower class. (Right, we're a classless society, you bet.)
Our prisons have become an "industry." Wow.
Self-centered politicians make policy not based on what's good for the public, but on what will get them reelected ("Tough on crime" -- nice 3 word snippet).
Mexicans want the jobs we won't do up here. Mexicans make the drugs we like to use down there.
Rant over.
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Red Shirt
Our prisons are mostly filled with the poor and blacks. It's inherently racist and discriminates against a lower class. (Right, we're a classless society, you bet.)
So you are saying that if they are poor and black that we shouldn't arrest them if they commit a crime because its racist and discriminating?
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 Originally Posted by cm husker
It's still quite possible that meth producers would merge with facebook, unfortunately.

Stupid autocorrect. I finally got out of the dark ages and got an Android device, and I'm apparently still struggling with certain features.
"Merge" was originally typed as "meth."
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The war on drugs is an utter joke. We need to quit fighting that losing war.
 Originally Posted by CombatTargeteer
I trust 57
 Originally Posted by HuskerWeatherman
He is the messiah.
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 Originally Posted by Huskers57
The war on drugs is an utter joke. We need to quit fighting that losing war.
No problem... then I have a few requirements - no addiction support either from tax dollars, pee test for any form of assistance, driving under the influence of anything is 5 years 1st offense, employers can test daily for any drugs and can fire without cause.
Some people are born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple. - Barry Switzer
 Originally Posted by The Big Red Lebowski
That a way CC! Stick with your boy to the bitter end.
 Originally Posted by RedPhoenix
Why yes, I do have a PHD in Hillbilly.
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 Originally Posted by CornfieldCounty
No problem... then I have a few requirements - no addiction support either from tax dollars, pee test for any form of assistance, driving under the influence of anything is 5 years 1st offense, employers can test daily for any drugs and can fire without cause.
Ummm, your 3rd point would mean building a lot more prisons.
The first two are worth discussion.
The last one would give employers the chance to unfairly discriminate and perhaps shackle someone with a charge/reputation they don't deserve.
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 Originally Posted by RedBlack&Blue
Ummm, your 3rd point would mean building a lot more prisons.
so you want drugs and no responsibilites, got it.
The first two are worth discussion.
A bit of good ground 
The last one would give employers the chance to unfairly discriminate and perhaps shackle someone with a charge/reputation they don't deserve.
Again, no responsibility for the user, got it.
Some people are born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple. - Barry Switzer
 Originally Posted by The Big Red Lebowski
That a way CC! Stick with your boy to the bitter end.
 Originally Posted by RedPhoenix
Why yes, I do have a PHD in Hillbilly.
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 Originally Posted by CornfieldCounty
No problem... then I have a few requirements - no addiction support either from tax dollars, pee test for any form of assistance, driving under the influence of anything is 5 years 1st offense, employers can test daily for any drugs and can fire without cause.
fire without cause (due to drug use) I'm good and in agreement.
 Originally Posted by CombatTargeteer
I trust 57
 Originally Posted by HuskerWeatherman
He is the messiah.
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 Originally Posted by CornfieldCounty
so you want drugs and no responsibilites, got it.
A bit of good ground
Again, no responsibility for the user, got it.
Sure, let's incarcerate even more people for longer for victimless crimes (yep, getting stopped for impaired driving is victimless). Great idea. Not.
No, too much power/authority in the hands of the employer. Seems as if employers already have pretty good recourse when it comes to detecting and dealing with drug use in the workplace. See no need to make that any stronger, really.
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 Originally Posted by RedBlack&Blue
Sure, let's incarcerate even more people for longer for victimless crimes (yep, getting stopped for impaired driving is victimless). Great idea. Not.
No, too much power/authority in the hands of the employer. Seems as if employers already have pretty good recourse when it comes to detecting and dealing with drug use in the workplace. See no need to make that any stronger, really.
Driving under the influence of drugs is OK? You are really making this statement?
Some people are born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple. - Barry Switzer
 Originally Posted by The Big Red Lebowski
That a way CC! Stick with your boy to the bitter end.
 Originally Posted by RedPhoenix
Why yes, I do have a PHD in Hillbilly.
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 Originally Posted by CornfieldCounty
Driving under the influence of drugs is OK? You are really making this statement?
Wow. No.
Now I remember why I generally don't comment on your posts.
Bye, and have a nice day.
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 Originally Posted by RedBlack&Blue
Sure, let's incarcerate even more people for longer for victimless crimes (yep, getting stopped for impaired driving is victimless). Great idea. Not.
Driving impaired isn't really victimless, I mean it's a roll of the dice if there will be a victim or not.
I think the real question regarding legalizing drugs, especially when you're talking about exquisitely engineered devices of human destruction like meth, is how much would drug use increase if we made it legal? Increased use of meth is increased human misery, not just for the users but for society who has to manage the wreckage. When we make it legal (equivalent to lowering the cost), use will increase at least somewhat. The question is how much. If we could estimate how much, and it was tolerable, I think you could get people talking seriously about legalization.
But what I'm always reminded is that alcohol is a massive scourge in our society currently, and it's legal. Sure, we tried to make it illegal once and that was an epic failure, but that was because we already had a whole widespread culture built around alcohol consumption. We couldn't put the horses back in the barn.
So you wonder, if we legalize other drugs, if usage will increase to the point where they turn out like our current major legal drug, alcohol. Because that would be pretty bad. If each one, (meth, heroin, cocaine, crack, etc) caused its own massive set of traffic fatalities, domestic violence, dependency, and so on like alcohol does today, we'd be doomed.
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 Originally Posted by CornfieldCounty
No problem... then I have a few requirements - no addiction support either from tax dollars, pee test for any form of assistance, driving under the influence of anything is 5 years 1st offense, employers can test daily for any drugs and can fire without cause.
Lets do the same for alcohol. I would have no problem without alcohol or other drugs.
"Bipartisan usually means that a larger-than-usual deception is being carried out."-George Carlin
"It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled".-Mark Twain
  
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 Originally Posted by ColoREDo
Lets do the same for alcohol. I would have no problem without alcohol or other drugs.
Why do you want to take away one of my biggest sources of retainers?
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