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    Quote Originally Posted by coherbie View Post
    But I've routinely questioned Ott (& Shoff) not being pursued (scholie, greyshirt?) only to be shouted down with the numbers game lecture.
    As much as it bites, 'the numbers game' is the reality of this year. Nebraska is currently sitting in a situation with Aaron Curry and Vincent Valentine where it's possible (not likely, but possible) that we could have to take one and turn the other down.

    I'm still not sure Sam Cotton gets an offer if Nebraska hadn't struck out on a number of tight ends so early in the process.

    It's unfortunate, but as I said - the numbers game is this year's reality. 2013 should be far better for in-state players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuskerNCorpus View Post
    Ott wasn't offered by Notre Dame, Michigan or Wisconsin, I don't believe. He canceled visits there, and perhaps would have received an offer.

    It's interesting to note that we only have 1 commit from the state of Nebraska. If this happened 5 years ago, some of our fans would be marching to Lincoln with pitchforks.
    Possibly true. Lots of other reasons to be disillusioned at that time, this one would have pushed everyone over the edge.

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    I have never seen Ott on film ever. I couldn't pick him out of a photo line-up. What stikes me as odd is the national folks make this guy a Parade All-American so my natural reaction is "What we miss here". My initial reaction is that this guy is no where near the 4 linebackers that are already signed. And I totally agree with 70county. But none of these guys spoken about weren't Parade All-Americans. Maybe being a Parade All American isn't what it used to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warhorse View Post
    10%?? Has it ever been that high? The roof would blow off this place and rightfully so if the coach staff set aside around 10% of schollies every year for kids whose only qualification was that they are instate.
    10% on a normal year would be 2.5 (or 2-3) and this year would be 1.7 (or 1-2.) In 2011 we took 4 Nebraskans, 2010 we took 4, 2009 we took 2 and 2008 we took 6. Assuming just 1 this season, we have signed 17 Nebraskans over 5 classes or an average 3.4 per year which is well over 10%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuskerNCorpus View Post
    Sean Fisher should have agreed to the move to DE a year or two ago.
    Absolutely...It seems fairly obvious that he could be a DE coming out of high school. I think that w/ his athleticism he could have been a starter, at least, and maybe all conference. Anyone have a clue if the subject was broached w/ him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuskerNCorpus View Post

    It's interesting to note that we only have 1 commit from the state of Nebraska. If this happened 5 years ago, some of our fans would be marching to Lincoln with pitchforks.
    We'll see how it plays out, but this is a small class. Maybe a % comparison would be more accurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hrbhskr View Post
    I have never seen Ott on film ever. I couldn't pick him out of a photo line-up. What stikes me as odd is the national folks make this guy a Parade All-American so my natural reaction is "What we miss here". My initial reaction is that this guy is no where near the 4 linebackers that are already signed. And I totally agree with 70county. But none of these guys spoken about weren't Parade All-Americans. Maybe being a Parade All American isn't what it used to be.
    not sure how all these all star teams work out. who makes the call on them and how much football do they know. what i do know is that the omaha nebraska paper is in volved and perhaps like some of the all star teams and and all state teams their is a little politics invlolved. another words if the world herald is a member of selection group then a player from the state may be nice to have on the list..doesnt really hurt anyone by having him on the list and it stirs up interest for the team in the state of nebraska. i would assume that if the selection group were starting a team and not selling new papers that ott may not be on the team...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 70county View Post
    not sure how all these all star teams work out. who makes the call on them and how much football do they know. what i do know is that the omaha nebraska paper is in volved and perhaps like some of the all star teams and and all state teams their is a little politics invlolved. another words if the world herald is a member of selection group then a player from the state may be nice to have on the list..doesnt really hurt anyone by having him on the list and it stirs up interest for the team in the state of nebraska. i would assume that if the selection group were starting a team and not selling new papers that ott may not be on the team...
    Wow, all of this without even seeing the guy play. Interesting stuff.


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    Ummm...if Ott or Shoff were in Texas they would be 2 stars at best. They are benefiting from low competition levels. So don't say they would have had an offer.

    As of Friday LSU and USC had no commits from the Parade All-American list, their recruiting must be terrible this year.

    Are we really getting bent out of shape about not getting a guy that had offers from NDSU, SDSU, Ohio, and Iowa? The very foundation of Nebraska football that people are referring to in the 90's is that this kid should walk-on and not be offered. I mean we are seriously mad that this kid is going to Iowa instead of Nebraska. Check the egos at the door, if this kid chose LSU over us without an offer, then it's time to panic about our coaches evaluation skills.

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    Went to go make food and had to come back to my computer. This topic just boggles my mind that people seriously think we needed to offer this kid. We really need to offer someone to keep them going to a 1AA school or Ohio or Iowa!!?? This is not arrogance, but those programs are beneath us. That is correct, you can go to school at a lesser program and get a scholarship, or you can come to Nebraska to a better program and try to earn your scholarship?

    If this was our recruiting philosophy, where does the cut off line end???? "Well every top D2 team in the country has offered him, along with most 1AA schools and Soich at Ohio, this kid can't even get a look from Nebraska?!" If we adapt the strategy that most of you want us to take up in regards to this topic, don't worry, Pelini will be gone in a couple years because we will be dead last in the Legends division.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShortSideOption View Post
    Ummm...if Ott or Shoff were in Texas they would be 2 stars at best. They are benefiting from low competition levels. So don't say they would have had an offer.

    As of Friday LSU and USC had no commits from the Parade All-American list, their recruiting must be terrible this year.

    Are we really getting bent out of shape about not getting a guy that had offers from NDSU, SDSU, Ohio, and Iowa? The very foundation of Nebraska football that people are referring to in the 90's is that this kid should walk-on and not be offered. I mean we are seriously mad that this kid is going to Iowa instead of Nebraska. Check the egos at the door, if this kid chose LSU over us without an offer, then it's time to panic about our coaches evaluation skills.
    Egos? Panic? Really? It's a honest discussion about a Nebraska high school football player who was recently named to the Parade All American team. Nothing more then that. I notice you missed his offer from Kansas State, a BCS school that finished 8th in the country in the final BCS poll. Someone must think he has some game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hrbhskr View Post
    Egos? Panic? Really? It's a honest discussion about a Nebraska high school football player who was recently named to the Parade All American team. Nothing more then that. I notice you missed his offer from Kansas State, a BCS school that finished 8th in the country in the final BCS poll. Someone must think he has some game.

    I actually didn't miss anything....I was just repeating what was said. And just to game, set, match this argument, the position coach at the school that he committed to at the time is now at Nebraska and has not told Bo and company that he is better than who we are looking at now. Any more concerns?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hrbhskr View Post
    Egos? Panic? Really? It's a honest discussion about a Nebraska high school football player who was recently named to the Parade All American team. Nothing more then that. I notice you missed his offer from Kansas State, a BCS school that finished 8th in the country in the final BCS poll. Someone must think he has some game.
    And if he chose Kansas State over us would you be worried? Same argument still can be said with them, just lump them in with Ohio and Iowa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PNW Husker View Post
    Wow, all of this without even seeing the guy play. Interesting stuff.

    how many kids in florida, cali or texas have you seen play? i dont do high school recruiting for a living but it dont make me blind to the fact that their may be better players across the country and i have his recruiting offers and our coaching staff to back me. perhaps i hit a cord with your own accolades....if so maybe taking that high school all conference plague down know would be a good thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by 70county View Post
    how many kids in florida, cali or texas have you seen play? i dont do high school recruiting for a living but it dont make me blind to the fact that their may be better players across the country and i have his recruiting offers and our coaching staff to back me. perhaps i hit a cord with your own accolades....if so maybe taking that high school all conference plague down know would be a good thing

    Don't believe I stated he should have been offered.. What I did say is he could have been a plan B or C option. I just found it interesting you said he probably only received this accolade due to politics not his play on the field. Oh, and nice try with the weak dig.


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    Neither one of these young men were going to get Husker offers and I would be surprised if they do now....we had and have better players on the big board....perhaps if we had 25-27 skollies this year one or both might have an offer....

    With a limited class young men like this, in the postions they play, are just not going to get offers.....its nothing against them....its a numbers game....

    Being an All-American or a Heisman Trophy winner (Crouch) does not guarantee sucess or even a chance at the next level....just the way it is....
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    Quote Originally Posted by BornToBeRed View Post
    As much as it bites, 'the numbers game' is the reality of this year. Nebraska is currently sitting in a situation with Aaron Curry and Vincent Valentine where it's possible (not likely, but possible) that we could have to take one and turn the other down.

    I'm still not sure Sam Cotton gets an offer if Nebraska hadn't struck out on a number of tight ends so early in the process.

    It's unfortunate, but as I said - the numbers game is this year's reality. 2013 should be far better for in-state players.
    Some people on this board may not like me because of the stance I took against Sam Cotton earlier in the season. I dont think he deserved a scholarship offer in a class like this (size). And he was indeed offered early in the process, back in May, and committed in June. I know they missed out early on top guys like Jalen Cope-Fitzpatrick, Christo Kourtzidis, Sean Price and Devin Funchess.

    Frankly, I think Cotton was getting an offer no matter what. It just strikes me that of the instate kids to get offers - its the son of a coach. Personally I think Ott or Shoff should have gotten the one instate offer this season but...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warhorse View Post
    10%?? Has it ever been that high? The roof would blow off this place and rightfully so if the coach staff set aside around 10% of schollies every year for kids whose only qualification was that they are instate.
    actually it's rarely that low...

    2011 - 4 of 20 signees were from NE (20% of class)
    2010 - 4 of 21 signees were from NE (19% of class)
    2009 - 2 of 21 signees were from NE (~10% of class)
    2010 - 6 of 28 signees were from NE (21% of class)

    again, not debating the merit of the individuals, (will leave those evaluations to the experts), simply stating a philosophy / opinion that the best kids in the state, at least deserve an offer. Other DI programs have offered multiple in state players, so these aren't rudys for rudy's sake.

    we hear a lot about stars & rankings, but at the end of the day, these homegrown kids are typically the last ones you have to worry about being homesick (aside from EC ) , transferring, etc.. and tend to wind up contributing significantly (& along the way often impart the hard work ethic of the great state of nebraska). & to qualify, especially linemen, where a motor + determination are difficult to quantify IMO.

    even in a year with a small class (rumored to be 15 or 16) - & I'd say especially in such a year - seems logical to make room for the likes of the local Parade all american... again, just advocating rounding 1.6 up to 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by N2FL View Post
    Some people on this board may not like me because of the stance I took against Sam Cotton earlier in the season. I dont think he deserved a scholarship offer in a class like this (size). And he was indeed offered early in the process, back in May, and committed in June. I know they missed out early on top guys like Jalen Cope-Fitzpatrick, Christo Kourtzidis, Sean Price and Devin Funchess.

    Frankly, I think Cotton was getting an offer no matter what. It just strikes me that of the instate kids to get offers - its the son of a coach. Personally I think Ott or Shoff should have gotten the one instate offer this season but...
    Couldnt agree more.
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