Bo doing a little flirting?

[Porkchopexpress]

That's what fans do. Heck, I even recall some callafans doing the same thing. And I'll be the first to admit that I viewed calllahan's losses (and the reason for them occuring) quite a bit differently than I view Bo's losses.

Well, that's because Callahan blew chunks.

[SOFTCHARGER]

Well, that's because Callahan blew chunks.

Unfortunately many didn't see this until Oct 13, 2007 when they were blinded by ineptitude. Hell, the little 60 point loss 3 years earlier against a run-of-the-mill Tech team should have chilled even our stealth BRB-types into a sense of foreboding, 'cause it was right in front of them from the git go.

[GoBigfRed]

K-State, huh? Frank's gotterdammerung. The last few weeks of that season nobody would have beaten them. Ask No.1 Oklahoma...

Unfortunately, the simple minded portion of our fanbase had an equally simple minded favor hire manning the ad's office at the time.

Sensible people would recognize that when it was obvious that staffing changes needed to be made and why, that it'd take a few years to see the results.

That dynamic young staff hired before the 2003 season was brought in for recruiting, to re-establish our roster. That they got 10-3 our of basically the same team from 2002 was quite an accomplishment, even if all of getting there wasn't pretty.

The simple minded saw that we had a retooled staff and everything should be fixed immediately, without the time needed to put in the work.

Pedey derailed our opportunity to get back on track, and now Bo's working to get us back to where Frank had us pointed at the time.

[Porkchopexpress]

Unfortunately many didn't see this until Oct 13, 2007 when they were blinded by ineptitude. Hell, the little 60 point loss 3 years earlier against a run-of-the-mill Tech team should have chilled even our stealth BRB-types into a sense of foreboding, 'cause it was right in front of them from the git go.

Maybe this would be best of another topic, but how would it have looked if SP was forced by big-money boosters, to can Callahan after the 2004 season, or even the 2005 (had NU lost in the Alamo Bowl). Now we can say that Callahan was a mistake, but I don't know what would have happened had NU canned Callahan so quickly, especially after the way the Solich firing went down. Would legit BCS level coaching prospects be knocking down NU's door? I feel fairly safe in saying no established HC would go to NU after firing two coaches in such a short timespan. Obviously the choice would have been to not fire Solich, but I think most can admit now, that really wasn't an option with SP at the helm.

This isn't an endorsement of Callahan, but rather just another way of looking at things.

[Brew City Husker]

Urban wasn't coming to NU under any scenario that didn't include boatloads of money. More money than NU would have been willing to spend. Solich could have gone 3-9, and Urban wasn't going to NU. He would have created another convenient excuse to bypass even being interviewed for the position.

He wouldn't have come because recruiting to Nebraska would have been, in his mind, too difficult, regardless of the money. In spite of that, he's stated publicly on more than one occasion that he wouldn't have seriously considered the job because of the way that Solich, who he considered a friend, was fired.

[Big "D"zasker]

Unfortunately, the simple minded portion of our fanbase had an equally simple minded favor hire manning the ad's office at the time.

Sensible people would recognize that when it was obvious that staffing changes needed to be made and why, that it'd take a few years to see the results.

That dynamic young staff hired before the 2003 season was brought in for recruiting, to re-establish our roster. That they got 10-3 our of basically the same team from 2002 was quite an accomplishment, even if all of getting there wasn't pretty.

The simple minded saw that we had a retooled staff and everything should be fixed immediately, without the time needed to put in the work.

Pedey derailed our opportunity to get back on track, and now Bo's working to get us back to where Frank had us pointed at the time.

The entertainment value you alone provide is almost worth forking out $20 a year.

[Brew City Husker]

Maybe this would be best of another topic, but how would it have looked if SP was forced by big-money boosters, to can Callahan after the 2004 season, or even the 2005 (had NU lost in the Alamo Bowl). Now we can say that Callahan was a mistake, but I don't know what would have happened had NU canned Callahan so quickly, especially after the way the Solich firing went down. Would legit BCS level coaching prospects be knocking down NU's door? I feel fairly safe in saying no established HC would go to NU after firing two coaches in such a short timespan. Obviously the choice would have been to not fire Solich, but I think most can admit now, that really wasn't an option with SP at the helm.

This isn't an endorsement of Callahan, but rather just another way of looking at things.

Even after Callahan's prolonged tenure, how many "established" coaches were really interested in the job? Remember, we hired an up and coming coordinator with no head coaching experience. As much as I like Pelini, he wasn't exactly "establised" as a head coach.

[Porkchopexpress]

Even after Callahan's prolonged tenure, how many "established" coaches were really interested in the job? Remember, we hired an up and coming coordinator with no head coaching experience. As much as I like Pelini, he wasn't exactly "establised" as a head coach.

I agree. I would even believe that legit "up and comers" who were pinned for future BCS jobs would bypass on NU.

[bilsker]

Which 4 is that?

And no, I don't draw my conclusions based on Vegas.

ISU 2009, NW 2011, TT 2009 and Texas 2010. Throw in Washinton in the holiday bowl last year.

[bilsker]

The same reason that Urban wouldn't have taken the job was a large component of why firing Frank was a bad idea. The reason that you end up with a bad hire is because you just executed a poorly thought out fire.

What urban "said" has nothing to do with why he REALLY wouldn't have taken the job. He was the hottest commodity out there. He was going to have his pick of jobs in college football...and sorry to burst anyone's bubble but NU wasn't going to make the cut under any circumstances. FLa paid him $3.25, it's the SEC and recruiting is easy peazy.

[bilsker]

Unfortunately, the simple minded portion of our fanbase had an equally simple minded favor hire manning the ad's office at the time.

Sensible people would recognize that when it was obvious that staffing changes needed to be made and why, that it'd take a few years to see the results.

That dynamic young staff hired before the 2003 season was brought in for recruiting, to re-establish our roster. That they got 10-3 our of basically the same team from 2002 was quite an accomplishment, even if all of getting there wasn't pretty.

The simple minded saw that we had a retooled staff and everything should be fixed immediately, without the time needed to put in the work.

Pedey derailed our opportunity to get back on track, and now Bo's working to get us back to where Frank had us pointed at the time.

It's really hard to have these discussions with you without getting vacationed.

That said...Doc Sadler. Only a simpleton couldn't see HE'S not cut out for the job. So let's not talk like you have some sort of stranglehold on who is and who is not a coach "heading in the right direction".

Solich should not have been fired after 2003. That does not mean that he was absolutely on the right track. Fact is we will never know. What's happened SINCE? Obviously Callahan sucked. His suckitude still does NOT mean that Solich was going to get Nebraska back to where people think it should be. NU is where it is now. None of that other crap really means squat now. Those of you fearing that there is some groundswell to get rid of Bo are simply just paranoid or, more likely, diverting attention away from criticisms of him (there are legit criticisms) by flaming this "OH MY GOD!!! YOU WANNA FIRE HIM????" bullcrap.

[The Impaler]

It's really hard to have these discussions with you without getting vacationed.

That said...Doc Sadler. Only a simpleton couldn't see HE'S not cut out for the job. So let's not talk like you have some sort of stranglehold on who is and who is not a coach "heading in the right direction".

Solich should not have been fired after 2003. That does not mean that he was absolutely on the right track. Fact is we will never know. What's happened SINCE? Obviously Callahan sucked. His suckitude still does NOT mean that Solich was going to get Nebraska back to where people think it should be. NU is where it is now. None of that other crap really means squat now. Those of you fearing that there is some groundswell to get rid of Bo are simply just paranoid or, more likely, diverting attention away from criticisms of him (there are legit criticisms) by flaming this "OH MY GOD!!! YOU WANNA FIRE HIM????" bullcrap.

POTY nomination.

[Big "D"zasker]

It's really hard to have these discussions with you without getting vacationed.

That said...Doc Sadler. Only a simpleton couldn't see HE'S not cut out for the job. So let's not talk like you have some sort of stranglehold on who is and who is not a coach "heading in the right direction".

Solich should not have been fired after 2003. That does not mean that he was absolutely on the right track. Fact is we will never know. What's happened SINCE? Obviously Callahan sucked. His suckitude still does NOT mean that Solich was going to get Nebraska back to where people think it should be. NU is where it is now. None of that other crap really means squat now. Those of you fearing that there is some groundswell to get rid of Bo are simply just paranoid or, more likely, diverting attention away from criticisms of him (there are legit criticisms) by flaming this "OH MY GOD!!! YOU WANNA FIRE HIM????" bullcrap.

POTY nomination.

+1

[The Impaler]

I was reading through this thread wondering, where's fRed calling people names and lumping everyone into one category with derogatory terms, then lo and behold.

Unfortunately, the simple minded portion of our fanbase had an equally simple minded favor hire manning the ad's office at the time.

Sensible people would recognize that when it was obvious that staffing changes needed to be made and why, that it'd take a few years to see the results.

That dynamic young staff hired before the 2003 season was brought in for recruiting, to re-establish our roster. That they got 10-3 our of basically the same team from 2002 was quite an accomplishment, even if all of getting there wasn't pretty.

The simple minded saw that we had a retooled staff and everything should be fixed immediately, without the time needed to put in the work.

Pedey derailed our opportunity to get back on track, and now Bo's working to get us back to where Frank had us pointed at the time.

[utsker]

+1

+2

[utsker]

I was reading through this thread wondering, where's fRed calling people names and lumping everyone into one category with derogatory terms, then lo and behold.

Wow...two POTY nominations in the same thread....

[utsker]

What urban "said" has nothing to do with why he REALLY wouldn't have taken the job. He was the hottest commodity out there. He was going to have his pick of jobs in college football...and sorry to burst anyone's bubble but NU wasn't going to make the cut under any circumstances. FLa paid him $3.25, it's the SEC and recruiting is easy peazy.

Yep...and he had the keys to Notre Dame too

[HuskerDynasty]

What Frank has done at Ohio does nothing to change my belief that he wasn't NU's best option for HC of this program.

So who was? Can't wait for this answer.

[Skunkman1]

Unfortunately, the simple minded portion of our fanbase had an equally simple minded favor hire manning the ad's office at the time.

Sensible people would recognize that when it was obvious that staffing changes needed to be made and why, that it'd take a few years to see the results.

That dynamic young staff hired before the 2003 season was brought in for recruiting, to re-establish our roster. That they got 10-3 our of basically the same team from 2002 was quite an accomplishment, even if all of getting there wasn't pretty.

The simple minded saw that we had a retooled staff and everything should be fixed immediately, without the time needed to put in the work.

Pedey derailed our opportunity to get back on track, and now Bo's working to get us back to where Frank had us pointed at the time.

Are you that simple, to make a post like this?

[HuskerDynasty]

They certainly changed the defense to get more "speed" on the field. You didn't see guys like Ed Stewart or Farley playing LB prior to the change in philosophy. You didn't see smallish defensive ends like the trended toward (oddly enough a trend that Cozgrove went away from when they let guys like Dillard ballon up over 250 and carriker to 295).

Did you have acess to zasker's crystal ball, too? You knew TO was going to start recruiting more speed and win lots of NC. Why didn't you tell us? We could've all been rich!