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Pavlovian Manipulator
 Originally Posted by KleinTxHusker
I am pretty sure Tom Osborne would disagree with the coaches and those who felt that coming in third was equivalent to being last...
I'm pretty sure Osborne never presented his teams with third place or participation trophies either.
"Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan

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 Originally Posted by Big Red Rick
My trophy has a first name... it's T H I R D
My trophy has a second name... it's P L A C E
Warhorse likes this, ob-vi-ous-ly!
If you have to ask, then cri-men-y....
Because he always likes to see...
Rewards for me-di-oc-riii-ty.
Great now I will have that song stuck in my head all day...I blame you BRR...you...
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson
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 Originally Posted by Big Red Rick
I'm pretty sure Osborne never presented his teams with third place or participation trophies either.
Yeah I remember when present with the choice of winning or a tie TO to the big risk and went for the win. People are still complaining about that but it was the right call. You always go for the win...never get complacent for a tie or 2nd or 3rd.
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson
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 Originally Posted by Warhorse
Did you get the part where these were 8th grade football players?? Do you really believe that the "Ricky Bobby View" should be applied to junior high and high school sports?? It was once my priviledge and honor to coach amazing group of overachiever high school football players who fell in OT to the eventual state champs in our class. Our team ended up third in the state that season. At our annual football banquet a few weeks later, the parents and community presented the team with a very nice generic trophy recognizing their outstanding effort and high place in the final standings. That trophy still occupies a favored spot in the school's trophy case and I know for a fact it also occupies a fond spot in the hearts of players and coaches who made that dream season a reality.
Getting them ready for that liberal / socialist lifestyle? Everyone gets rewarded for poor to mediocre performance?
Where is the incentive for them to improve and be better than the next guy?
"The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." Ayn Rand
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Did the huskers get their trophies yet for finishing third in the Legends division?
"Baseball happens to be a game of cumulative tension but football, basketball and hockey are played with hand grenades and machine guns." John Leonard

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 Originally Posted by Red_in_Blue_Land
Getting them ready for that liberal / socialist lifestyle? Everyone gets rewarded for poor to mediocre performance?
Where is the incentive for them to improve and be better than the next guy?
Even worse, those parents take them home and give them free meals and let them live in the house for free. Disgusting.
"Bipartisan usually means that a larger-than-usual deception is being carried out."-George Carlin
"It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled".-Mark Twain
  
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It's funny how this story is divided along our usual party lines. Liberals are outraged about it and conservatives don't think it's that big of a deal.
 Originally Posted by p-ville husker
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 Originally Posted by HuskerNCorpus
It's funny how this story is divided along our usual party lines. Liberals are outraged about it and conservatives don't think it's that big of a deal.
Well I am a independent and I never really understood the participation ribbon outrage. Being a kid is about having fun and enjoying your experiences of being a youth. So there is a participation ribbon. Its a way of remembering you team and season. Why is it made to mean anything more than that by people? Does anyone REALLY think this is conditioning kids minds to expect something from not earning it? Really? If that is the case, the whole "real life" experience is really being corrupted by parents every day. Free food, free shelter, free clothing? What message is that sending to our children? And be sure to treat you kid as you would players that you don't even know. Boo him loudly if he makes a bad play because thats what happens in the real world. These are children learning a game. Let them be kids, not pawns in a political game for adults with over-active imaginations.
"Bipartisan usually means that a larger-than-usual deception is being carried out."-George Carlin
"It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled".-Mark Twain
  
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 Originally Posted by ColoREDo
Well I am a independent and I never really understood the participation ribbon outrage.
 Originally Posted by p-ville husker
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 Originally Posted by ColoREDo
Something funny?
Besides the part about you being an "independent?"
 Originally Posted by p-ville husker
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 Originally Posted by HuskerNCorpus
Besides the part about you being an "independent?"
No, thats it. I am sure that you consider me a liberal and I would like you to tell me what opinion I have shared that draws you to that conclusion. Its a typical assumption made by this "us vs. them" board. Its really disturbing when someone in law enforcement makes assumptions like this though. Makes you wonder how they approach their job.
"Bipartisan usually means that a larger-than-usual deception is being carried out."-George Carlin
"It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled".-Mark Twain
  
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Is this what everybody is afraid of????
"Baseball happens to be a game of cumulative tension but football, basketball and hockey are played with hand grenades and machine guns." John Leonard

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 Originally Posted by ColoREDo
Its really disturbing when someone in law enforcement makes assumptions like this though. Makes you wonder how they approach their job.
LMAO! This is your response to me not considering you being an independent. Your reply is to suggest that I don't handle my duties as a police officer correctly?
AHAHAHAHA! Thanks for the laugh!
 Originally Posted by p-ville husker
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 Originally Posted by HuskerNCorpus
LMAO! This is your response to me not considering you being an independent. Your reply is to suggest that I don't handle my duties as a police officer correctly?
AHAHAHAHA! Thanks for the laugh!
So, why am I not an independent again?
"Bipartisan usually means that a larger-than-usual deception is being carried out."-George Carlin
"It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled".-Mark Twain
  
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"Baseball happens to be a game of cumulative tension but football, basketball and hockey are played with hand grenades and machine guns." John Leonard

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 Originally Posted by ColoREDo
So, why am I not an independent again?
You can be anything you want to claim to be. I simply do not see you as a true independent. 95% of the left/right arguments on the board, you're on the left side. That leads me to believe you're much more liberal than "independent." I could see an independent leaning towards one side, that's simply natural. But not as heavily as you lean.
But what does any of this have to do with you suggesting I don't handle my JOB as a police officer correctly?
 Originally Posted by p-ville husker
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 Originally Posted by HuskerNCorpus
You can be anything you want to claim to be. I simply do not see you as a true independent. 95% of the left/right arguments on the board, you're on the left side. That leads me to believe you're much more liberal than "independent." I could see an independent leaning towards one side, that's simply natural. But not as heavily as you lean.
But what does any of this have to do with you suggesting I don't handle my JOB as a police officer correctly?
95% of the time huh? Gee, HC, you seem to be full of crap. Examples?
I am saying that if you tend to make false, way off base assumptions in your line of work, it does the public you are supposed to serve absolutely no good at all.
"Bipartisan usually means that a larger-than-usual deception is being carried out."-George Carlin
"It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled".-Mark Twain
  
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C-Red....is this you???
"Baseball happens to be a game of cumulative tension but football, basketball and hockey are played with hand grenades and machine guns." John Leonard

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 Originally Posted by ColoREDo
95% of the time huh? Gee, HC, you seem to be full of crap. Examples?
I am saying that if you tend to make false, way off base assumptions in your line of work, it does the public you are supposed to serve absolutely no good at all.
Wow! You are taking this way too seriously. I consider you a liberal. If you're not, who cares. But, as I stated, you're always on the liberal side of arguments on this board. That leads me to thinking that you aren't what I consider as an "independent." If you're convinced you aren't a liberal, then that's all that matters, isn't it?
And anyone who thinks calling someone a liberal on a message board makes them a bad officer is an idiot. That's why I truly don't believe you think that, because you AREN'T an idiot.
 Originally Posted by p-ville husker
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